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Give me good honest reasons why you will ..............

by Phizzy in

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friends

attend the memorial this year..

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Tec -

I think you're right in wanting to show respect for a mans great sacrifice.

Jgnat-

I have not been to the KH for about 18 years. I am DF'd or DA'd - not sure which, as no one ever told me - but they sure got the shunning part done.

I am planning to attend this year, and to 'partake' as a 'silent protester'.

I am determinded to find some way to participate, in forcing a change, any change, upon the witnesses that can only be atributed to apostates and not 'holy spirit'.

The WT loves memorial night for it's attendance figures - misconstrued to appear as potential studies or converts. They will soon be forced to discontinue partakers counts , as mentally unstable and mentally diseased ones are already discrediting a count-downward figure for the remaining annointed. They proudly paraded those declining numbers for years, as further proof of the nearness of the end- no any more!

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Give me good honest reasons why you will ..............

by Phizzy in

jw
friends

attend the memorial this year..

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A fascinating blog ''year of Sundays'' by former JW, Joel Gunz of Oregon, gives a humourous and courageous look at his experience in returning to the KH at the memorial, and 'partaking' for the first time.

This couple spent a year visiting a variety of religions and services - and briefly critique what they find. They have some really pleasant surprises!

Sould we, should we do the same? A good little read, for all us JWN types.

GfG

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Question to re-instated ones or those who know them

by ItsMyLife in

hi guys and gals.

i hope you're all enjoying your lives, whatever path you have chosen.. i have a question for anyone who is currently re-instated, has previously been re-instated, or knows and is still in contact with a re-instated one.. my question is this:.

is the main reason for getting re-instated:.

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My kids who are still in, are the ones that want me to 'fake it' back in.

Shunning is not just difficult for those kicked out, but for those in as well.

If it were just a matter of a single meeting, and tickling some ears, I would do it.

I've even come to admire the pragmatic way the Catholics dispatch sin, and penance so efficiently with a wing and a prayer, and let people simply reset their lives to their pre-sin parameters.

But I've already wasted too much of my life in their cult, and I haven't got another brain cell to sacrifice to their drivel.

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JEHOVAH NEEDS YOUR MONEY FOR 2014!!!!!!!!

by DATA-DOG in

has anyone else recieved the letter from the gb about international conventions in 2014?

according to the letter the missionarys/order of full time servants desperately need to get to the conventions in their homeland.

so to accomplish this, jehovah needs 15 cents per publisher, per congregation for some months ( sorry i can't remember the exact length of time ).

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Arboles -

Congregation Camps - - tee hee hee!

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Would this work? Be honest. Brutal if necessary.

by okage in

i feel i must preface this with context so as to make the intention understandable: .

to jehovah's witnesses and their apologists, that goal is destruction of truth and the downfall of jehovah's witnesses.

but that's not our goal.

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LostGeneration-

it's not worth wasting time 'bringing down the Watchtower.'

I could not agree more - it will self destruct in the fullness of its own madness.

But I had hoped for a way to challenge the one and only bite in their bark, to reunite those already separated and spare those in the future

The only teeth they posess is the ability to cause division and pain among families. When the Nazis couldn't find an enemy, they would just murder his family -same pain, probably even more.

It seems they define a certain class of people (discreet and insular?), label them - apostates, describe them at lenth in their publications as 'mentally diseased etc. and incite the general population, through their magazines to view them with distain, mistrust and and coerce their menbers to ostracize the entire group, without knowledge nor cause.

The possibility of apostates and other DF,DA's having the unique resouces(harmed lives) to lobby for change, seemed just to delicous to dismiss out of hand. The irony of preempting 'noo lite' seems like reward unto itself.

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Would this work? Be honest. Brutal if necessary.

by okage in

i feel i must preface this with context so as to make the intention understandable: .

to jehovah's witnesses and their apologists, that goal is destruction of truth and the downfall of jehovah's witnesses.

but that's not our goal.

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But there is no such thing as a giant class action against a Church for all different kinds of emotional harm.

Are there not class actions against the RC church because of molestations etc., on the grounds of emotional harm done the victims? I believe there are sucvh cases still going in Eastern Canada.

You cannot sue churches for matters relating to core religous doctrines that you don't like.

Chaserious- the harm is not caused by doctrine -which is just words - (although just words can be a danger to society) no, the harm is caused by the intent the WT puts those words to - coerced , systematic, publicly displayed, reality that people are abandoned and shunned by loved ones. I personally don't give a damn about doctrine , but I am harmed, and enraged by the separation artificialy inserted, and enforced into my family unit.

If anyone has individually been harmed by the WTS to the extent that the law recognizes a remedy, or a plausible argument can be made that the law should recognize a remedy, then by all means they should bring a lawsuit

It is my understanding, if I read the thousands of posts here correctly, that indeed, thousands of people have already suffered harm from the WT's intentional interference in their familial love. The exasperation, heartbreak and anger where whathave brought them here for support, comfort and help in coping - with what is undeniably a harm both unatural and inhumane-and completely unnecessary.

refusing to allow black couples to have a wedding ceremony in the church, guess what? They could do it right now, in 2013, and they could not be sued.

Please , somebody tell me this isn't so!

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i got to say "i'm not interested"

by joyfulfader in

2 sisters came to the door and since i dont live in the territory they dont know me and i got to say "i'm not interested" for the first time :).

it felt awesome.

didnt have a chance to engage in conversation as i was quite busy but it was a nice first for me..

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Joyfulfader - Quite a feeling isn't it, to be on the other side of the door? I like your choice of topix for their next call 'loving shunning' - sounds like a country song. I always talk to them - they don't know I am DF'd so it goes along pleasantly as can be - I disagree in the nicest way possible, and state my views politely and honestly, everbody parts happy.

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Would this work? Be honest. Brutal if necessary.

by okage in

i feel i must preface this with context so as to make the intention understandable: .

to jehovah's witnesses and their apologists, that goal is destruction of truth and the downfall of jehovah's witnesses.

but that's not our goal.

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Chaserious - Why do you think we who are DFd are powerless? We, ALL of the DFd, and all those who have EVER been DAd - are the very people, the living witnesses who can prove that, the WTS does indeed incite ALL their members, including our own close family members to discriminate, without known cause, against us. WE the DF'd and DA'd are also the living witnesses and proof of the mental and psycological damage that is unavoidable under the WTs extreme, coercive, systematic, alienation . I would imagine thousands, would happily volunteer to testify to these as legal claims if given a chance. Hopefully, Band On The Run, or some other legal eagles will join in here.

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Would this work? Be honest. Brutal if necessary.

by okage in

i feel i must preface this with context so as to make the intention understandable: .

to jehovah's witnesses and their apologists, that goal is destruction of truth and the downfall of jehovah's witnesses.

but that's not our goal.

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Hermano - The WT is far from invincible! The Baby-boomer generation, like me, are all going to be 'shuffling off' in the next 20 years so that's a(huge) demographic, they will lose without fail. Never again will converts flood in like we did- so easily lured from christendom. Boomers disappearing numbers (in Canada especially) can only be augmented by immigration. Our multi-culturalist policies for these 'new Canadians' will work against the WT bigtime. With REAl legal freedom to continue practicong their own faiths, there won't be the urgency there once was to join a foriegn church as an aid to assimilate. If we can mount an embarassing legal challenge to their one and ONLY power - to divide families - the exodus will begin unabated, with no further intervention required.

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Would this work? Be honest. Brutal if necessary.

by okage in

i feel i must preface this with context so as to make the intention understandable: .

to jehovah's witnesses and their apologists, that goal is destruction of truth and the downfall of jehovah's witnesses.

but that's not our goal.

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Lost Generation Sorry - for the crumby format of these replys, but my reply box doesn't have the tools bar today? I wrote it with paragraphs and spacing - but it just come sout as a block of print. Maybe someone can help?